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	<title>Comments on: Crosswind Landing?</title>
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	<description>The art of not hitting the ground too hard...</description>
	<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 18:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Eric Simmons</title>
		<link>http://www.fearoflanding.com/misc/crosswind-landing/#comment-5845</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Simmons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 17:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a great site that discuss fear of flying. I also talk about crosswind landings.

&lt;a href="www.flyinganxiety.com" rel="nofollow"&gt;Flying Anxiety is a site  
dedicated to helping people with anxieties&lt;/a&gt; - flying anxieties offer a dvd for  
purchase to over come your fear of flying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great site that discuss fear of flying. I also talk about crosswind landings.</p>
<p><a href="www.flyinganxiety.com" rel="nofollow">Flying Anxiety is a site<br />
dedicated to helping people with anxieties</a> - flying anxieties offer a dvd for<br />
purchase to over come your fear of flying.</p>
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		<title>By: Christine Eldin</title>
		<link>http://www.fearoflanding.com/misc/crosswind-landing/#comment-5546</link>
		<dc:creator>Christine Eldin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 08:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Sylvia,

I forgot you were a pilot!  How cool!!! I'll have to read your blog now....

I wanted to see if you were going to post the last part of your story. You're sooo close!!! Please do!  I can leave it up for another day, but then I'll have to take it down if you don't want to finish so EE isn't confused when he starts commenting on them.

Thanks!! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sylvia,</p>
<p>I forgot you were a pilot!  How cool!!! I&#8217;ll have to read your blog now&#8230;.</p>
<p>I wanted to see if you were going to post the last part of your story. You&#8217;re sooo close!!! Please do!  I can leave it up for another day, but then I&#8217;ll have to take it down if you don&#8217;t want to finish so EE isn&#8217;t confused when he starts commenting on them.</p>
<p>Thanks!! :-)</p>
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		<title>By: stilok</title>
		<link>http://www.fearoflanding.com/misc/crosswind-landing/#comment-5475</link>
		<dc:creator>stilok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 16:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HHmmm.. Crosswind Landing?? i think that was misappropriate. but i don't know why the pilot's choose them or what are the actual causes and happen.. maybe because of heavy wind. but anyway making Go Around is a best option.

It's hard to say that the wing touched the ground. and if did, its only little but if the wing totally touched the ground and the impact is massive.. That is a very different story that we seen this video

Good Job..!!  to the Pilot's</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HHmmm.. Crosswind Landing?? i think that was misappropriate. but i don&#8217;t know why the pilot&#8217;s choose them or what are the actual causes and happen.. maybe because of heavy wind. but anyway making Go Around is a best option.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s hard to say that the wing touched the ground. and if did, its only little but if the wing totally touched the ground and the impact is massive.. That is a very different story that we seen this video</p>
<p>Good Job..!!  to the Pilot&#8217;s</p>
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		<title>By: Plastic Pilot &#124; Airbus 320 trying to land in crosswinds in Hamburg - Personal Opinion</title>
		<link>http://www.fearoflanding.com/misc/crosswind-landing/#comment-5468</link>
		<dc:creator>Plastic Pilot &#124; Airbus 320 trying to land in crosswinds in Hamburg - Personal Opinion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 19:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Video of the first landing attempt [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Sylvia</title>
		<link>http://www.fearoflanding.com/misc/crosswind-landing/#comment-5454</link>
		<dc:creator>Sylvia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The arguments about #1 have started, ranging from "it was a bad approach" to "he should have diverted." So easy to say in arrears.

Spiegel magazine says that the wingtip touched but only on the German version:

http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/0,1518,539069,00.html

Pech für die Lufthansa: Der Fehlanflug ist durch das Video von "Spottern" bestens dokumentiert. Alle Welt kann sehen, wie die etwa 60 Tonnen schwere Maschine schaukelnd und mit großem Vorhaltewinkel auf die Bahn zusteuert, und die Tragflächenspitze mit dem Asphalt kollidiert. Die Airbus-Piloten haben jedoch nach Lufthansa-Angaben "super-professionell" reagiert.

Here's my translation:

Bad luck for Lufthansa: The missed approach was documented on video by plane spotters. All the world can see, how the approx. 60-ton machine rocked and with a large lead  steered toward the runway and the wingtip collided with the asphalt.  Lufthansa says, however, that the Airbus pilots reacted "super-professionally".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The arguments about #1 have started, ranging from &#8220;it was a bad approach&#8221; to &#8220;he should have diverted.&#8221; So easy to say in arrears.</p>
<p>Spiegel magazine says that the wingtip touched but only on the German version:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/0,1518,539069,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/0,1518,539069,00.html</a></p>
<p>Pech für die Lufthansa: Der Fehlanflug ist durch das Video von &#8220;Spottern&#8221; bestens dokumentiert. Alle Welt kann sehen, wie die etwa 60 Tonnen schwere Maschine schaukelnd und mit großem Vorhaltewinkel auf die Bahn zusteuert, und die Tragflächenspitze mit dem Asphalt kollidiert. Die Airbus-Piloten haben jedoch nach Lufthansa-Angaben &#8220;super-professionell&#8221; reagiert.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s my translation:</p>
<p>Bad luck for Lufthansa: The missed approach was documented on video by plane spotters. All the world can see, how the approx. 60-ton machine rocked and with a large lead  steered toward the runway and the wingtip collided with the asphalt.  Lufthansa says, however, that the Airbus pilots reacted &#8220;super-professionally&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: PlasticPilot</title>
		<link>http://www.fearoflanding.com/misc/crosswind-landing/#comment-5452</link>
		<dc:creator>PlasticPilot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 11:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw this video all around the net, and it inspires me two comments:

1) Going around is certainly the good decision. Should the pilot have gone around earlier ? Not possible to conclude anything. It's easy to say "the wing tip will touch ground" when seeing that from outside, much harder from the cockpit.

2) It's not clear yet if the wing actually touched the runway or if water was splashed because of aerodynamics effects. The report will tell.

Anyway, congrats to the brave pilots who took the approach, and finally succeeded at the second attempt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw this video all around the net, and it inspires me two comments:</p>
<p>1) Going around is certainly the good decision. Should the pilot have gone around earlier ? Not possible to conclude anything. It&#8217;s easy to say &#8220;the wing tip will touch ground&#8221; when seeing that from outside, much harder from the cockpit.</p>
<p>2) It&#8217;s not clear yet if the wing actually touched the runway or if water was splashed because of aerodynamics effects. The report will tell.</p>
<p>Anyway, congrats to the brave pilots who took the approach, and finally succeeded at the second attempt.</p>
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		<title>By: Sylvia</title>
		<link>http://www.fearoflanding.com/misc/crosswind-landing/#comment-5451</link>
		<dc:creator>Sylvia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 11:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, bear in mind he still has to land the thing - a crosswind landing involves coming in sideways but then it got too much. I landed next to the runway once when the wind gusted at the last minute and the plane simply shifted sideways. There was no way I could see that coming. Also, going around is expensive and scary for the passengers. Obviously any decent pilot will go around if he needs to, but he won't rush into it.

I've added a photograph taken from a different angle showing the wing hitting the ground. Eeeek!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, bear in mind he still has to land the thing - a crosswind landing involves coming in sideways but then it got too much. I landed next to the runway once when the wind gusted at the last minute and the plane simply shifted sideways. There was no way I could see that coming. Also, going around is expensive and scary for the passengers. Obviously any decent pilot will go around if he needs to, but he won&#8217;t rush into it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve added a photograph taken from a different angle showing the wing hitting the ground. Eeeek!</p>
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		<title>By: Dom</title>
		<link>http://www.fearoflanding.com/misc/crosswind-landing/#comment-5450</link>
		<dc:creator>Dom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 11:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They've been showing this on the news this morning, saying Lufthansa are treating the passengers for "psychological trauma".

As someone who has no idea about these things, shouldn't the pilot maybe have considered going around a little earlier? Like maybe when he noticed he was coming in sideways?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;ve been showing this on the news this morning, saying Lufthansa are treating the passengers for &#8220;psychological trauma&#8221;.</p>
<p>As someone who has no idea about these things, shouldn&#8217;t the pilot maybe have considered going around a little earlier? Like maybe when he noticed he was coming in sideways?</p>
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